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Esahc ..
Esahc ..
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Дмитрий Т.

I am using 2022.2.6 and I am having a similar problem

In a new project I created a text object and added 4 lines of text and directed the links at website pages

I modified text styles

But when I preview (or ctrl+preview) I do not see bold standard text, and I cannot see links unless I hover over them and none of the attributes I set are displayed (ie click link and return, it does not show visited attributes).

I do not know if this misbehaviour has been fixed in the current beta version.

I have marked your post for Incomedia's attention.

PS I have also opened a pre-existing project and whilst the link attributes remain correct, they cannot be modified.

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Esahc ..
Esahc ..
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Incomedia, this is a follow up to the above.

I have created (yet another) new project and the text styles for link seems to mostly work (I cannot explain the extreme variation between the styles I set and the resultant preview. If I work out how this happened I will advise.) If someone else can recreate my problem as detailed in the post above I would love to know.

Part of the problem appears to be caused by the cookie which indicates whether a link has already been visited. I went back through a number of versions and found this behaviour the same even in version 9. Surely ctrl+preview should delete pre-existing cookies so the site preview is fully refreshed? When developing a page if a link is tested in preview the preview will ONLY EVER display the link as visited irrespective of changes to the active link style.

Could you please advise where I might locate the cookies so that I might delete them when doing a ctrl+preview at least.

There was also a problem when I used a background colour attribute in the visited link. I did not know that the background colour for the visited link will only display if there is a background attribute set for the active link (ie anything but transparent). This appears to have been a fault forever (same in v9). Can this be fixed??

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Stefano G.
Incomedia

Hello Дмитрий 

What if you try to export the website online. Does the fault remain? Or if you test it on an external browser?

What about a new project? Any difference there?

Please try this out and keep me posted here

@Esahc

before moving on to analyzing the last issue you mentioned about the background, I would like to let you know that technically you should be able to open up the browser inspector via F12 in the preview browser just like you would in any browser. From there, you can handle cookies and storage data like any browser does it. This way, you should be able to clear what you need to clear.

Try that out and let me know if that fixes it

Thank you

Stefano

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Esahc ..
Esahc ..
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Thanks Stefano, I will check out F12 and then test attribute behaviour in the latest version.

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Esahc ..
Esahc ..
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Stefano, all tests were carried out on new projects.

Regarding resetting link attributes
Please note, I had to carry out this test in an old version. I was obviously wrong when I guessed the link attributes were stored in a cookie, F12 in the browser shows no cookies. The only way to reset a site so that unvisited links are identified is to close WX5 and re-open WX5 and again open the project (simply re-opening the project does not clear the attribute).
Please advise the way to reset link attributes without restarting (in my opinion CTRL+preview should always provide a clean environment).

Testing v2022.2.9 to address problem raised by Дмитрий Т.
I have set the link attributes exactly the same as in v17


The unvisited (active) link NEVER displays irrespective of whether I preview, CTRL+preview or shut down WX5, restart WX5 and open the project anew. However, it DOES display in the local system default browser and when online (this is very bad for evo users and very frustrating/confusing for all users). This is a fault introduced in v2022.2.?, the active link is correctly displayed in v2022.1.7 (I tested this)

UPDATE: after further testing, if I link to a file (pdf) rather than a web page, then the very first preview shows active link (not visited). Nothing will reset this to display after visiting the link (even closing WX5) except, if I change the link to none, do a preview and then set it back to the file it will preview as an active (not visited) link. Sadly this work-around does not work when the link is to a webpage.

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Regarding the background colour attibute for visited link

The visited link attribute background colour will only display if the active link background colour is NOT set to transparent. It does not work in the system default browser and I can only assume it will not work online either (even back in v17).

Either this should be fixed or the user should not be able to select anything other than transparent background colour for the visited link unless a background colour for the active link is selected.

Please check my findings.

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Дмитрий Т.
Дмитрий Т.
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Hi all!)

Yes, the same picture.
If the "active link" is in the background, then there should be no "background" on the "visited link"!
But the “visited link” link does not become, the “background” of the visited link remains the same as that of the “active link”. The "visited link" is not displayed as visited i.e. Without background.

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Дмитрий Т.
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Changing the color of the "visited link" text causes the color (same) of the active link to change. Those. "background" color and "text" color of "visited link" is the priority in displaying "active link"

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Esahc ..
Esahc ..
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Дмитрий Т., regarding your last post, this is because in v2022.2.9 the active (unvisited) link to a web page is never displayed, only and always the visited link.

This is what is causing the confusion and the problem.

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Stefano G.
Incomedia

Good afternoon everyone

I thank you for the detailed feedback and I confirm that I proceeded to notify the developers of this so that it can be fixed

I will keep you posted here as soon as news on this becomes available 

Thank you

Stefano

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Esahc ..
Esahc ..
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Stefano, please confirm that the text link attribute issue raised by Дмитрий Т. is being dealt with separately. This is a *BUG* introduced in v2022.2.? and it should be treated separately by the developers urgently.

The other 2 issues (resetting the attributes to test an as new display of page and being able to set background colour on visited link) are long standing issues that came to light whilst I was testing. I am well aware of how long it always takes to fix long standing issues, developers put these amendments on the never never plan or simply drop them in the bit bucket.

Not displaying the active link is an urgent bug requiring fixing now.

Sorry if I muddied the waters for Дмитрий Т.

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Stefano G.
Incomedia

Good afternoon Esahc

I can confirm that both the issue with the Active link not being displayed ever and the thing about transparent backgrounds have been forwarded to the developers to be fix

This way, both issues will be checked promptly and probably be addressed (unless complications arise) in the same upcoming update

I remain available here

Stefano

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Esahc ..
Esahc ..
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Thank you Stefano, I like your optimism (I just wish I shared it).

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Дмитрий Т.
Дмитрий Т.
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Thanks Stefano from me too!)

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Incomedia
Stefano G.
Incomedia

Hello Esahc, Дмитрий

We're currently still analyzing the new issue, but about the old issue Esahc mentioned, I have an official response:

About the background color, unfortunately it depends on a new browser protection added to preserve user privacy. A site could put many links on a page and test their properties to see which ones have been visited and which have not. More information can be found here https://css-tricks.com/almanac/selectors/v/visited/

In our case it is therefore not possible to set a link background if it was not set on the unvisited link. The transparent background appears as not set unfortunately.

I hope this is helpful

Stefano

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Дмитрий Т.
Дмитрий Т.
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Ciao Stefano!) Grazie, ci conviveremo.))) Buona giornata!)

Hi Stefano!) Thank you, we will live with it.))) Have a nice day!)

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Esahc ..
Esahc ..
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Thanks Stefano, I can live without that too (now I know it is a limitation) although the option to add a background colour to the visited attribute should be greyed out if active link has transparent background.

Only 2 to go :-)

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Esahc ..
Esahc ..
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With the release of v2022.2.10 active links are now correctly displayed in the local preview.

However

It is still NOT possible to emulate an unvisited link once the link has been visited (cannot clear the visited link attribute when testing in preview)

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Miguel Galarza
Miguel Galarza
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La pregunta es...

¿Por qué tocar algo que funciona bien?

El problema sigue en la v2022.2.10

Si en el enlace activo  tiene transparencia de fondo, NO se activa el selector de color de fondo en enlace visitado.

Si se activa el color de fondo del enlace activo, se activa el color de fondo del enlace visitado, pero el enlace activo la letra se pone como visitado... ???

Se le cruzaron los cables al programador. xD

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Дмитрий Т.
Дмитрий Т.
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¡Definitivamente puedes vivir con esto!)))

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