Adrian,

i am not sure if this helps, but you could try an overlay menu, the one from x5 does not show levels, but there are a few users that have made there own menu's

Maybe these are faster... I don't know, you can find out yourself in 1 way, try it and let us know.

https://helpcenter.websitex5.com/en/post/238850

Sorry I don't follow, what is an overlay menu?

Thinking more about the problem, it is because all of my menu links are in the header - if I make a page just for menu items, and a text link from the header, then I think the high html overload for the landing page will improve - but not sure how users will react to a more clumsy menu page rather than easier to access from header.

Sorry - I found the overlay menu object - but how would that reduce the code overhead if the hamburger is on the template header?

I've moved my menu buttons out of the header and onto the main home page, but the landing pages when i look at the source code still have all the sites' menu links listed... i understand the /index.html page having that, but other pages shouldn't???  The source shows the same number of code lines for a landing page from when it had the menu buttons in the header and when they are removed. 

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Adrian, I have not tried it, but in step 3 if you select the page and then page properties, under graphic you have a number of options to disable certain features in the page template (not the least of which is create page without template).

Does this reduce your "html load"?

Thank you for the idea - i tested and no difference,

Adrian

Hello Adrian

Due to how the Menu and other elements are built, this might happen on some particularly light pages. However, this never apparently caused any issues with loading speed or ranking, so the matter hasn't been analyzed very deeply as of now.

Do you notice particularly slow loading times? Or did Google or any other tool indicate this as a possible issue?

If so, can you let me see the notification here as to be able to analyze that better?

Keep me posted

Thank you

Stefano

Hello Stefano,

I have used a few SEO improvement tools, the one I like best is Semrush - attached see screenshot of this issue.

I have added content to some test pages that already have a lot of text, I doubled it to say 400 words from 200 but is makes almost no improvement in the score due to the very high number of lines that are devoted to menu structure.

And now I move my menu buttons to a page instead of in sticky header - but it does not change the content of the page.

Thank you and stay safe. 

X5 is a very excellent product.

Adrian

PS - semrush flags content as low when it falls below 10% of total page size

Hello Adrian

Thank you for all the information. Considering the logic and structure of the menu, I doubt that this is something on which a rapid intervention can be applied.

However, I can reassure you that I have informed the developers of this so that the matter can be kept under consideration for future improvements to how the Menu Object is structured to improve this aspect as well

As of now, since this doesn't seem to be a ranking factor in actual websites, it won't be treated as a bug

I remain available for further clarifications

Stefano