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Nigel W.
Nigel W.
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Author: Nigel W.
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I would ask that you focus on where our websites are being viewed.

A significant percentage of my visitors are viewing on mobile devices.

I receive a 1* rating (out of 5) from Google for an unhealthy site for viewing on mobile devices.

Would you please make rewrites to put this sorry state right in a future update, please?

This should NOT be the prerogative of your Pro edition.

I for one have paid good money for upgrades for many years and most good website software incorporates this now-a-days

Nigel

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Incomedia
Claudio D.
Incomedia

Hello Nigel,

Can you please tell me what was told about the mobile view on the test you made?

The code made with the Evolution has already the optimitation to adapt to smaller screens like mobile devices to fit better so you only make one project and it can be correctly seen on pc and mobile devices.

The Professional has no prerogative to mobile devices in the website creation but it only offers a further tool to be used with the website feed created with the feed function or the blog.

Many thanks!

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Nigel W.
Nigel W.
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Ok Claudio. It's possible that Google and Incomedia are at cross purposes again.Lol!

I am given 2*/5*

Here are some of the comments from my Google Ad Sense page:-

Multi-screen optimised

We’ve analysed how well your site displays on the screens of your users. A low score indicates that your site is not optimised for different screen sizes. Optimising your pages to fit mobile device screens better can lead to an improved experience for your users and increased traffic and earnings.

(This is the link Google offers:

https://www.google.com/think/collections/make-website-work-across-multiple-devices.html?hl=en_GB )

I will be interested to hear your comments.

Best,

Nigel

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Donald B.
Donald B.
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Claudio, thank you for the info on fitting to different screen sizes with Evo and Pro.

Does the "Touch support for mobiles" work only with Pro as the price matrix shows?  Or is that feature included with Evo?

Nigel, thanks for your question about mobile.  I must say, after doing web design software research for a couple of years, I am very interested in these other softwares that have responsive(autofit) page sizing to any screen.  ("most good website software incorporates this now-a-days")  Please let me in on this secret before I start building sites with X5 Pro. Because I could only find 2 in about 20+ programs that have this feature.  And they have problems, no HTML5 and/or limited funtionality.

The autofit to most screens is one of the reasons I purchased X5.  Yes, there are bugs to be fixed.  Yes, it would be nice to have an english only forum.  Yes, it would be nice to have a native 64 bit program.  And yes, the price might be too high.  But X5 Evo and Pro are still at the top of my list.

Just my opinion, one person? Your absolutely right.  Spend a couple hundred hours, do the trial/sample programs, search the forums, reviews and google it for compliants and problems.  Look through the user guides and run the sites through the W3C code check.  Check Amazon, Cnet and others.

In the meantime I humbly ask anyone for the name of any stand-alone software programs that have responsive, autofit type web pages and the built-in features X5 has.

It's late and I'm going to need extra caffine at work tomorrow.  Chow! (see-a-oh)

Regards

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Posted on the from Donald B.
Donald B.
Donald B.
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Greeting Nigel, the website listed under your profile is huge with a lot going on, wow!  It loads up fast also.  Super!    I see you'r using the latest version of Evo.  (With Pro you can toggle off the generator tag.)  Checked on iphone 4s and yes it is hard to navigate and next to useless.  See what your talking about.  The X5 home page works fine, zoom in/out and slide in any direction (hence the touch feature in mobile devices with Pro) its not perfect, but it is functional.

That is, if they didn't insert extra code and only used the features in X5 Pro?  Talk to us!

This is a huge issue with most stand alone programs.  People inserting code, "it's never going to happen here", dual websites, when-when-when???, "you're SOL", "never going to happen with a WYSIWYG editor", on and on and on.  It is a problem for sure.

X5 autofit works because is uses a window in a window (Bruce Lee, Enter the Dragon 1973) or should I say a table in a table web type construction.  This is similar to using a table in MS FrontPage where if you only had text it would fit to anything.  And why you don't have the drop and drag functionality of objects that other editors do and must place everything in a window/table.  I can live with that considering the autofit and touch features.

Kind regards to all of you and your families.

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Claudio D.
Incomedia

Hello Nigel,

I tested the website on a mobile device and it is shown correctly but the size and the width of the website makes the content look a little smaller. Google checks the code but not how it looks or if it fits good. This has to be tested manually.

The code used to fit to mobile devices excludes the lateral space so all the width of the scrren is used only for the content.

To have a website which is best adapted to mobile devices you should use less objects in the same row and avoid large templates so the visitor needs not to zoom a lot to read it. If you use less content on the same row then you can also increase the text size, which brings benefits to mobile devices.

The link you shared speaks about the option to create also a custom project only for mobile devices where then you can organise the content to be best adapted for these devices like using only one column or or max 2. Use a a max widht of 640 px and use a bigger font size. In this way you will not need to change the structure of the currect project. You can simply create a copy and then use a mobile template and adapt the content to be on max 2 columns.

This will improve the user experience on mobile devices.

Many thanks!

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Posted on the from Claudio D.
Donald B.
Donald B.
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Claudio, you may be missing what we're asking for.  That is; for the web page to fit across the screen (not just the header, ribbon or background, but the full normal page) of any device without a scroll bar and for the touch features on a phone or tablet to work correctly.  We do not want to make 2 or 3 websites and have a redirect script to a fixed pixel width (website) that is still static for a desktop moniter, tablet or mobile device.

Over the holiday break I will be posting a simple test site made with X5 Pro just for testing.  And you can be assured that it will be made without any code, script, wigets, macros or hot joe inserted. 

Thanks a lot!   Kind Regards

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E. Lansu
E. Lansu
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The idea behind a workable site for mobile devices is 'Responsive'. The CSS for the site is different when the website 'senses' it's used on a mobile of a certain size. Pagelayout is changed accordingly and menu's are enlarged.

The pagelayout in X5 is static, only the size of what you see is changed. This results in very small menu-buttons and an immediate need for resizing by the user. Google gives a penalty for this behaviour. My website FrieslandBeweegt.nl gets 85% (green) for desktop and 71% (orange) for mobile in Google PageSpeed Insights.

I would very mutch like a possibility to act upon screensizes, while 70% of my visitors acces the site from a mobile device. (avg. 10.000 visitors/month)

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Nigel W.
Nigel W.
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Fascinating comments from Donald B and E Lansu.

Thanks Claudio for YOUR reply, too.

I will have to study this properly next year and see what I can do about things.

Best wishes and a Happy Christmas and sometimes we forget that Website X5 provides hours of enjoyment.

My site is my hobby and I can just about cope with the technology of this brand.

Nigel

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Donald B.
Donald B.
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Hey Nigel, how are you sir?  I took another look at your site with the apple iphone 4s.  It seemed to work fine.  I also checked several other sites made with X5 from version 8 up.  All could scroll in 4 directions, zoom in or out, zoom to fit and tapping on a link worked ok.  Your website responded the same.  I'm not quite sure what " “360° Rotation” for photo galleries, with Touch support for mobiles" in the pricing matrix means, like a lot of answers here.  I suppose I could open a new post and ask about that, but I don't feel like rolling the dice today.

When viewing your site on the iphone your top dropdown menu bar has one of the buttons forced just below(Arts & Culture?).  I see in your source code your width is set at 989 instead of the recommended 960.  You might take a look at that. 

I don't have a tablet or other smart phone to check sites on.  Maybe someone else could be so kind to check or open a new post with results.

And yes, this forum is a very, very interesting...... let's say experience. (That's what I say about my MIL, mother in law the "Polish Hammer".)  Hopefully it's better for our italiano speaking brothers and sisters than us poor souls who speak only englay.

Cheers & Kind Regards!

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Nigel W.
Nigel W.
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Hi there Donald...

Well spotted!

I only noticed the menu problem and other anomolies when I returned to London.

I've corrected most of everything now.

I think all the corruption was due to my use of an over-zealous PC "cleaner"...my template had disappeared but fortunately I retrieved it and its dimensions from tghe project file and the site is now rebuilt.

(This underlines the importance of regular backups!!!)

*****I find that any self-created templates and library objects are the first to disappear when something goes wrong.

I wish that these self created library objects would have more permanency and only "delete" when the author wishes them to!

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