Nigel,

Found this on a website that makes scripts for cookies;

On 26 May 2011 the European Commission made the controversial 'Cookies Directive' law. It applies to the UK and all european countries. It mandates that the use of cookies on european business websites must be disclosed and explicit consent for their use be obtained from your users, however in the UK the Information Commissioners Office (ICO) has suggested that it is sufficient to work on the basis of implied rather than explicit consent.

X5 is for home use, if you have a business website, you mught want to add a cooky script or you use x5 to make a notice.
But the information that x5 uses in cookies is not subjected to this as I understand from Claudio;

https://helpcenter.websitex5.com/post/119035

But if youre not sure there are a lot of script you can use that make a popup for cookie acknoladgement. You can add them in the expert section of your home page, if you need help, let me know which script you choose from internet.

To be honest I would not worry too much about it, if you get promblems ( I don't think so) you can always set it on you website at that time, it's not much work. But I think it makes your site less attractive .... :)

Best Regards,

André

Hi Andre...

Thanks so much for that.

However, Google has informed me that, if I use Google Adsense,

"So if you're using third party advertising services, such as Google AdSense, you'll need to take steps to integrate your preferred solution with the advertising tags on your pages to make sure your users' preferences are respected."

I am quite confused.

I don't use Google Analytics...so that's alright.

I found the following, which gives examples, but I can't find a free script that specifically shows how to integrate with the ads in easy to follow steps.

http://sitebeam.net/cookieconsent-v1/documentation/code-examples/

ALSO, Andre, (should I have to use a script on each page, would I have to put it in JUST the Home Page?

Ughhhhhhh...lol!

Nigel

I just tryed a few big company sites within europe, i stopped after 6 or 7 , nowhere a cookie pop up ..... 

But to help you, check out this page: https://silktide.com/tools/cookie-consent/

There is documentation and in it a wizard link, it also says where to place the code I would suggest use in x5 step 4 ceo and expert tab. Then it will be on all your pages, it will ask only once if I understand the code. Try it, if you get stuck let me know then I will install it and write down the steps for you.

BuT I think the wizard will get you there.

That is brilliant! Thank you.

As I answer you, I am just experimenting with:

http://sitebeam.net/cookieconsent-v1/code/

I will just finish this and then move to your suggestion.

Andre...intuition? I was just going to ask where I put the code so it appears on ALL pages.

Thank you so much for your time!

I'll come back later.

Nigel

Ah...I didn't read your link properly.

I tried "silktide". I didn't get the grasp of that one as the generated code didn't show all the buttons.

"sitebeam" seems to have ALL the answers but one has to be careful not to get drawn into the "pay for" reports part of it...lol!

It also shows what to do with Google Ads.

The BIG problem is that all these "cookie consent" widgets arte fine if one hasn't got GoogleAds but, if one has, then the freebies don't comply with EU Law as the Ads still work independently.

I'm worried that, although Google states the tags in the ads have to be altered to give a choice of cookie consent, other Google rules say the ads should NOT be interfered with.

Anyway...at least we're getting SOMEWHERE!

I'm in the middle of publishing and I will alter the code placement as you suggest but, at the moment, "sitebeam"'s test of my site is as follows:

http://trial.sitebeam.net/reports/view/?requestGUID=tr1368184100:13d79b42730648d7015fba1a6621f02c

Nigel

I get a login request because I'm not registered. And if I would register i am still not sure if I can read your report, I suspect it will still not be visible for me....

Hi Andre...

Sorry about that...

Basically, it just does a test to see if www.hampsteadheath.net is fully compliant.

The first time, I only scored a "4 Poor" and I took out google+ and another widget and I now score "6 Good"

Anyway, with your help, I've managed to make the warning show on each page and I think I will leave it now until I'm clearer about what I'm supposed to do about Google Adsense properly!

I'm fairly sure that a lot of website owners are really going to come unstuck if they use third party stuff and don't format THAT stuff with a modified code.

At least I now know what's ahead.

My only concern with "sitebeam" is that, although they say the cookie snippet is FREE, the "skin" that you will see when you look at my site may NOT be free.

I appear to be on a TRIAL but I haven't signed up to anything and this "trial" maybe for all the other reports that they produce,

Best,

Nigel

Yes, I also noticed that the script is on a different site. I ussually don't like that (you can't see the code inside.)

So I like to find sites the let you download the actual scripts, this way you can check it and if placed else where then if they take it off, you have no script and will get an error.

If you have it on your own server then that problem is also gone.

This does not happen a lot offcource couse they will get a lot of angry clients if they do but I would like to be in control of what I do and have .. :)

Anyway I searched a lot of sites as mentionend earlyer and a lot truly a lot have no cookie  warnings, so they are not ncecessary or a lot of sites don't use them.

Anyway, you are on your way now, lets wait and see a 6 is not bad!

We'll see if Incomedia can define the criteria a bit more clearly and/or the "Adsense" position.

I have searched through the Google Forum and no-one seems to be focusing on having to alter the "tags" in the Ads but, at least, I have those examples to work on.

My main worry is that Google will go and do something like suspend a webmaster's Adsense service if they aren't exactly right.

In the present scenario, although the visitor may say "No" to cookies, the Adsense cookies will still be implemented which, of course, is breaking the EU Law.

Hello Nigel,

The law says if you collect data of the visitors in the cookies you must be allowed. IF google adsense is collecting specific personal data or only generic data which is tollerated by the law, this can tell you only google itself.

It depends only on how they have made this service, if it follows the EU law and if there is a way to use it without breaking the law. I would suggest you to contact the support of google where they will be able to answer to your questions since they know better how this service works and if there are options to enable to not break the EU law.

Many thanks!

Thanks Claudio.

Contacting Google is almost impossible!

You see, the way I look at it is that I am not collecting any data on my website (NOW) that isn't to do with the running of the site. If visitors click on an advert, then they are taken to the advertiser's site and SURELY it is then up to the advertiser to warn the visitor?

HOWEVER, Google doesn't see it this way:

http://www.cookiechoices.org/

This is going to prove a nightmare for anybody using third party advertising.

I wonder why the visitor can't be asked to stop "cookies" by a plugin in their own browser!

Nigel

Hello Nigel,

As soon as the advertising loads on your page it collects data and this should be up to you to warn them.

If you use one of the example code this should prevent from cookies to be created prior the user consent.

Many thanks!

Hi there Claudio...

That's what I would have thought but Google says it doesn't and that the "tags" in the advertising would have to be altered.(However, we're not allowed to alter the ad coding)

This is what the dilemma is.

I find it really confusing as do all the people commenting on the subject on line.

Claudio...perhaps you could just look at my page and tell me if you think I've done the right thing, please?

http://www.hampsteadheath.net

Thanks,

Nigel

Hello Nigel,

It seems to be correct on your site. You have added a script to wanr about the use of the cookies. It think this is the most important part, to warn and block them.

It you added the script as it has been written in the instruction it should be all ok since it should block all the cookies before the consent.

Many thanks!

Thanks Claudio.

I'll leave this in place then until we know more.

I think the whole saga may just be Google trying to appear squeaky clean!

I'll leave thisthread open for any further comments.

Best,

Nigel