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Joel B.
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Cell style user do not import on Website X5 Pro V13  fr

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Bonjour.

J'ai fais la mise à jour de la version pro 12 vers la pro 13, tout s'est bien déroulé sauf un point concernant le style des cellules.

La majorité de mes cellules sont des personnalisées et l'importation n'a pas pris en compte mes trois types de cellules personnalisées dans la bibliothèque ce qui représente 90% des cellules de mon site.

Je peux refaire mes cellules facilemenent mais je devrais alors réassigner une par une chaque cellule, un travail assez titanesque sur 700 pages !!!

Idem si j'exporte mes cellstyle de la version 12, commme à l'export on leur donne un nom qu'on choisi et qu'on a pas le nom original qui est utilisé dans la V12, il faudrait que je réa-ssigne tout à la main.

Je cherche en fait le dossier dans la V12 où sont sauvé ces cellstyles user car je pense que si j'importe en style de celules personnalisées celles de la version v12 sous la 13 avec le nom d'origine que la v12 leur a donné, il devrait les reconnaitre et les assigner "automatiquement'.

Ce sont des fichiers .iwcf

J'ai cherché mais sans trouver mis à part les images des cellules qui sont dans  Res > Cellstyle mais ce sont des .png.

Merci de m'indiquer si vous le savez où sont stockés ces fichiers.

Hi.

I have upgrade from website X5 Pro 12 to pro 13, import work fine except for one point.

My User cell style have not been imported. So i have a "empty" cell style on most of my site cell.

I can recreate them, but i need to reassign the cell style to each cell i made with it, a very long and hard job.

I know i can import them, but i dont know where is the forder in V12 they are saved (.iwcf file).

I hope that if i find them, i can import them with the same name they have in V12 and that V13 can assign them automaticly.

The export fonction of cell style not show the original name, so it doesnt match for assign them autmaticly.

I have fond the cell pictures in RES > CellStyle, but not the folder where is the .iwcf files.

Thanks for your help

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Riccardo P.
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Hello Joel,

i test it, i create a project with personal style cell in versione 12 and import the file .iwzip in versione 13 without problems.

Try import the file .iwzip again and if you have problem try upload the project so i can verify it directly. (you can use the service: https://www.wetransfer.com/ )

it's not possible import a fail .iwcf from versione 12 to version 13.

Let me know.

***** Google Translation:

BonjourJoel,

ile tester,je crée unprojet aveccellulepersonnelledestyleversione12 etimporterle fichier.iwzipdansversione13sans problème.

Essayezd'importer le fichier.iwzipà nouveauet si vous avezproblème, essayezde téléchargerle projetafin que je puissele vérifierdirectement.(Vouspouvez utiliser le service:https://www.wetransfer.com/)

il est impossibled'importationun échec.iwcfdeversione12à la version13.

Faites le moi savoir.

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Joel B.
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Thank you Ricardo, i will try again to import the .iwzip again and report to you.

The iwzip file size is a little more than 3 Go, i hope it will work and i do not need to upload it for you ;)

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Riccardo P.
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Hello Joel,

The project seems to have a large size, in this case you have to follow this steps in order to import it in version 13:

-Once you have the .iwzip file, rename it as .zip (if you do not see the filename extensions you have to enable them from the Windows control panel).

-Then extract the contents of the file into a folder, you can use a default program like 7zip or select "extract" from the Windows menu.

-Select the contents you have extracted in the folder and recreate the .zip storage (to do this you can use either the Windows default compressor or 7zip).

-Then  rename the file you have just created from .zip to .iwzip, so to import it into version 13 by clicking on the specific button "import" and by selecting the file.

***** Google Translation:

BonjourJoel,

Le projetsemble avoirune grande taille,dans ce cas,vous devez suivreces étapesafinde l'importerdans la version13:

-Une Fois que vousavez le fichier.iwzip,renommercomme.zip(si vousne voyez pas lesextensionsde nom de fichier, vous devez lesactiverà partir du panneaude configuration de Windows).

-EnsuiteExtraire le contenudu fichier dansun dossier, vouspouvez utiliser un programmepar défautcomme7zipou sélectionnez "extrait" dans le menuWindows.

-SélectionnezLe contenu que vousavezextraitsdans le dossieret de recréerle stockage.zip(pour ce faire, vous pouvez utilisersoitle compresseurpar défautde Windows ou7zip).

-EnsuiteRenommer le fichier que vous venez de créer à partir de .zipà.iwzip,afinde l'importer dans la version 13 en cliquant sur le bouton "importer" spécifique eten sélectionnant le fichier.

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Hi Ricardo, i done exactly what you write, it doesn't work but there is something strange :

Here you can see a screen shoot of the preview, like you see, there is no cellstyle :

 

I select the text box, cellstyle, and surprise, my user cell style can be seen on the right part :

In "bibliothèque, no user cellstyle is here.

I just click ok and made a new preview, surprise, my user cellstyle is apply to the text box : 

Done the same thing on the picture box on the left, same thing, seen in cellstyle windows, press ok and it's work :

I need to done this on each cell, but one step win, no need to select a cellstyle.

I have "addé this two user cellstyle to the "bibliothèque", preview, only the two cell i click have the user cellstyle.

Closed websiteX5 Pro 13, reopen, open the project, same tinhk.

579 pages to done like this.

Before you write this, i have done somethings.

Try to save a new V12 .iwzip file and import in V13 : same result.

I have two old back up one from mid august, one from end july.

Same thing.

One think on my ste, the size is huge, more than 800 pages, i have start it about Yamaha Synthesizer in 2005.

www.moessieurs.com.

Like the size is very big and some synths are old now, i have split the website in two part, the "living part" ad the "old part", the old part have no change since may 2015 and it's a dedicated project in v12, it allow me to made some change on the two projects and it upload more quickly.

 For this old part from may 2015, the import work perfectly and the user cellstyle are all here.

Very strange, perhaps an  update on v12 since may 2015 have change something.

The old part is on the website on "Motif series".

Any other idea Ricardo ?

I can share the new iwzip file i done for the test you explain to me on dropbow, how i can send you the link when it will be done (2.5 Go) ?

Ps my computer is on Windows 10  64 bits, intel I7, 12 Go of ram, all on SDD.

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Hi Ricardo, any news ?

How i can send you  the file link, i cannot share the link here in public view ?

Does i send you the V12 file ?

Thank you.

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Riccardo P.
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Hello Joel,

can you give me a your cell style so i can verify it please? Export a your cell style and attach it so i can verify it.

Let me know.

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Hi Ricardo, thanl you.

You have the zip file on join piece.

inside :

one folder with 3 cellstyle from v12 version (folder cell style v12)

one folder with two of the 3 same cellstyle in v13 (folder cell style v13)

I have join in each folder one html page, of course there is no all ressource join, but perhaps it can help you to check some code.

In v12 one page coming from preview folder for v12, in v13 the same page in preview folder for v13.

In this page i use two of my user style, the 1 and 2.

In the two pages i see "imCellStyleGraphics_1784" and "imCellStyleGraphics_1785" for the two cell style but in the v13 the cell style do not appear

Online it's this page : http://www.moessieurs.com/fm-converter-montage.html

I made a screen shot from the preview folder in each version of WebsiteX5 :

> Preview  for v12 : cellstyles are here :

Preview for v13, no cellstyle :

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Riccardo P.
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Hello,

i create a project with your cell style in v12, then i port it to version 13. The cell are visualized correcly.

I suggest you to import the file .iwcf in v13 and click "apply".

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Joel B.
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Hi Ricardo, thank you.

Same for me, when i create a new project on v12, use the cellstyles after import them, export the project, port it to v13, it's work fine, directly.

When i open my big project, it doesnt work.

I have delete all project in v13, update v13 to the last version, export my big project from v12, import it in v13, always same result.

In preview the cellstyle aren't show.

If i gone after to a cell and select "object style" it show my user cellstyle, like you can see :

Come back to the page edit, preview, this cellstyle for this cell is show in preview, i do not go to bibliotheque and click apply.

All the others cells who use the same cellstyle doesn't show it in preview.

I have try also in bibliotheque to made apply, same result.

it's really crazy!

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I have try two things but without succes.

Uninstall V12, reinstall v12, update to last version, all work fine in preview, export a new .iwzip file.

Uninstall v13, reinstall v13, update to last version, import the project made with v12 reinstall, no succes, always the same thing.

In preview user cellstyle are not show, select a cell on one page, clic on "style" is see the user style in the style windows, close, made a new preview the cellstyle is applyed only on this cell (not for the others) and i have not add the cell style to the bibliotheque, not apply anything.

At this step, the only thing i see is to clic on each cell for style on the 589 pages of the imported version, huge work.

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Hi Ricardo, try a last chance option without succes.

Like i need to update my website, i do it with v12, after done it i export my project but this time without checking options in the export windows to have a smallest file for the .iwzip

The iwzip without compression size is less than 500 Mo,  i have import it in v13, same result, no user cell in preview.

I have remade one .iwzip from v12 with maximum compression without checking the options (police letter, preview pages and save copy) it done a 423 Mo file.

I have upload it to my dropbox, how i can send you the .iwzip file link Ricardo, i could not share it here of course.

Thank you.

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Joel B.
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Hi last news, another strange think, like this project have 589 pages, somme of them have been done more than 1 year ago.

For the old pages, more than near 1 years, it's work, the user cells are here, for the others no, strange no !!!!

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Riccardo P.
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Hello Joel,

i set your topic as private, i need your v12 project for analyze it.

You can use this service: https://www.wetransfer.com/

Thank you.

***** Google Translation:

BonjourJoel,

imisvotre sujetcommeprivé,ibesoin de votreprojetv12pourl'analyser.

Vous pouvez utiliserce service:https://www.wetransfer.com/

Je vous remercie.

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Joel B.
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Hi Ricardo, thank you very much.

I have enough place in my dropbox in public folder, it's here.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73668948/Evo13/Montage%20v12.iwzip

You can check after importing in your V13 Pro the page "actualité" (it's news page) you will see the "blank" cellstyles in preview.

Check also in the menu : Line 6 M20d > les effets :

here cells styles black work, not white cells style, perhaps i did not use my user cellstyle for the black and use an preset celstyle, not sure.

For the old pages were all cell styles work you can check : Divers > Enceintes DXR.

If you find a way to fix it and if you can upload the v13 pro file fixed, it wil be perfect.

Just to let you know, i work in colaboration with Yamaha Music France and a little bit with Yamaha Music Europe.

I do not work for them (no money) but i have gear let to me to play on stage and made my home studio recording work and promote Yamaha synths on my website.

The site is starting in 2005 with another software, i have remade some years ago all pages to Website X start with V8 if i remember fine and never stop to work with your software.

The site was too big to upload,  so in may, i split in two parts.

In the Menu, serie Motif is a "bridge" to another ftp folder were is the second part.

The second part project have and iwzip last file made in may 2016 that seems to work fine, i will recheck more pages on this second part project and come back to you to say if there is no problem. for this part.

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Riccardo P.
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Hello Joel,

thank you for your project, i import it in version 13.0.1.15 and i see the cell style correctly (see my screenshot)

Try submit in beta channel: beta.websitex5.com and download the update.

Thank you.

***** Google Translation:

BonjourJoel,

je vous remerciepour votre projet, jel'importerdans la version13.0.1.15et jevoisle style de cellulecorrectement(voir macapture d'écran)

Essayez présenter dans le canalbêta:beta.websitex5.comet téléchargerla mise à jour.

Je vous remercie.

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Joel B.
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Hi Ricardo, thank you for the beta link, i have subscribe, install the update after deleting the two project.

Import another time the v12 project version and it not solved the problem.

On your screenshoot check the bottom left cell for "facebook suscribe", there is no userstyle on this cell on your screenshoot and i have it in v12 project and online, check  www.moessieurs.com

You have tryed the project 2 witch is the less impacted for this problem.

Please check the project 1 : 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73668948/Evo13/Montage%20v12.iwzip

Check "Actualités" on the top menu for this project, you will see that there is no user cellstyles, only the preset cellstyle. 

Thank you.

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Riccardo P.
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Hello Joel,

your file .iwzip is create with the versione 13, i need your original project create with the versione 12.

Can you upload it please?

I import your project with the beta versione and i see all cellstyle, click on the CTRL+Preview.

See my screenshot.

***** Google Translation:

Bonjour Joel,

votre .iwzip de fichier est de créer avec le versione 13, i besoin de votre projet initial de créer avec le versione 12.

Pouvez-vous le télécharger s'il vous plaît?

J'importer votre projet avec la versione beta et je vois tout CellStyle, cliquez sur le CTRL + Aperçu.

Voir ma capture d'écran.

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Joel B.
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Hi Ricardo, thank you for your answer

Here is the screenshot for the v12 project in v12 , page "actualités", i see all usercellstyles :

v12 preview

Same page and same part of the page from the v12 imported in v13 and preview in v13, no user cellstyles , i have tryed ctrl + preview, same thing; no user cellstyles. :

v12 project imported and preview in v13

I hope it's enought clear like that.

To be sure that the iwzip file is well coming from v12, i have remade them from v12, here the screenshot before export, like you see it's made from v12 :

export from v12

So my principal project link is here, same size  excatly than the previous upload, i have reupload it :

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73668948/Evo13/Montage_v12.iwzip

Check the "actualité" page to compare to my screenshot.

I will reupload the second project if you find a way to solved ths problem.

This first project is the more important to me cause i need to made a site update this week-end.

The second project can wait a little bit.

Thank you.

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Joel B.
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Hi Ricardo, i know that you must be busy, any news, have you enought time to test, does i need to start selecting each cell on hand or do you think you can find a solution ?

Thanks for your help.

Joël

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Joel B.
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Another time it's me, i have tryed the .16 beta versio, import the v12 .iwzip project, same result, no user cell style.

I decided to made a test, i have upload the site from v13 in a sub folder create on the ftp who hosting my site, folder is named v13.

You can see the result here, no user cellstyle, it's not a preview problem in the software, it's a import problem who affect completly the project : 

http://www.moessieurs.com/v13/news.html

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Riccardo P.
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Hello Joel,

please can you re-upload your v12 project so i can re-download it. The link doesn't work.

***** Google Translation:

BonjourJoel,
s'il vous plaîtpouvez-vousre-télécharger votre projetv12afin que je puissere-télécharger.Le lien ne fonctionne pas.

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Hi Ricardo, the link, file is made with v12 and export. 

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/73668948/Evo13/Montage_v12.iwzip

I have try it, it's work for download.

I have tryied to remade user cells directly on v13. remade my user cells in v13 (it's not user cells import from v12)  try to apply them on V13, it doesn't work all the time.

Sometimes it works, sometimes no,  even this is not working like it does, i have made a video to show you.

You will see that even if in preview the userstyle cannot be seen, when i click on "style" i can see it.

Go to bibliotheque, apply the user style, sometimes it's work, sometimes no.

One time i have apply it to the second cell of the page, it's work, do the same for the third, made a preview, the second cell user style dissappears, i need to remade another time for it's work!!!!!!

In some case, just go to style and closed  it's work, some times i need to go and apply, sometimes it's work for the bottom cells of the page even when i apply the user cell style in "bibliotheque" and not for the top cell of the same page

It drive me crazy, i have nevers have this issue when importing from v10 to 11 or v11 to 12.

you can see the video on youtube here :

https://youtu.be/bRlvaBOy5dc

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Hi Ricardo, i know that you must be busy, but like i need to update my website tomorrow, i'd like to know if i need to done it from v12 or if you can have a solution for my problem before tonight.

Thank you for your help.

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Riccardo P.
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Hello,

thank you for your project.

I send it to our developer team for an analisys.

I open a style cell and click ok and CTRL+Preview. the image of the cell is displayed, see my screenshot.

You can wait news by our developers team or if you have hurry you need open all cell stile in all pages in your project and click ok.

I tell you as soon as possible.

***** Google Translation:

Bonjour,

je vous remerciepour votre projet.

Je l'envoieà notreéquipe de développeurspour unanalisys.

J'ouvreune cellule destyle etcliquez sur OKet CTRL+Aperçu.l'image de lacellule est affichée,voir macapture d'écran.

Vous pouvez attendre des nouvelles parnotre équipe dedéveloppeursou si vous avez pressé, vous devez ouvrirtous lesstilecellulaire danstoutes les pages devotre projet et cliquez sur OK.

Je vous le dis, dès que possible.

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Joel B.
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Thank you Ricardo.

Yes i know that it's work like this, but with ctrl+preview it's a long way to have the preview, near 1 minute.

I have just restest, it made the same thing from the video i have linked to you, done one cell one, it's work, done on second cell, work for second cell but it dissapears on first cell, 500 pages to done, too long for tomorrow and too uncertain cause i need to made it two or 3 time for it's work.

I will wait from the developer team answer and continue with v12.

Please could you also send the video link to the developer team to show them also the problem when i try to work and correct the user cell in v13.

Thank you for your help and have a nice week-end.

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Joel B.
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Hi Ricardo, any news from the developer team ?

Thank you.

Joël

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Riccardo P.
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Hello Joel,

i am sorry but there aren't no news.I'll let you know as soon as possible.

***** Google Translation:

Bonjour Joel,

Je suis désolé mais il n'y a pas de nouvelles. Je vous en aviserai dès que possible.

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Thank you Ricardo, i will wait for your news ;)

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Joel B.
Joel B.
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Hi Ricardo, for your information i have test with the new beta "V18", same issue, i have export my v12 project to be sure tho have the last v12 version of my project, import in "v18" freshly update, no user cell style appears on preview.

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Hi Ricardo, some others news and test.

To be sure that the change  i done are take in count in v13 if i need to proceed on hands all cell style change one by one , i have proceed like that.

- The v12 project imported  in v13 don't show user cells.

On a cell, i press style, i see my v12 user cell, click ok, preview, i see my user cell, it does't work all the time so i take this cell style and made it as user style in v13. Done for my 3 user cell style.

I export the project from v13 as an iwzip file.

Close V13, open v13, delete the project, import the .iwzip v13 project i have export with the user cells made in v13 from the v12 cells is see by pressing "style".

User cells have disapears when i made the preview after importing !!!!!!!!!

So it was a good idea to made this test, i cannot imagine to made this change on 570 pages  and by importing a.iwzip file made like this,  all disapears !!!!

- Ok so i test another way, select a cell, press style, and this time, i change and choose a preset style.

On preview no problem, the cell style stay each time, it's work like it must does.

Done it on several cells and for the 3 style i have, assign preset style only.

Export an .iwzip file, delete the previous v13 project inside v13, import the v13 iwzip file, open the page where i made test, preview, it's work.

So no problem with preset styles from v13.

- ok so i remade my user cells this time from the v13 project style an add it to the library style.

One is just a color change on the title text.

The other is just the content alignment (bottom therefore up).

The last is just title left therefore center.

I apply this users cells made from v13 preset on several cells of the page.

Preview, it's work.

Export as .iwzip file.

Delete the project in v13.

Import the .iwzip file with the users cells made from v13 preset cells, it's work on preview.

So that's cleary the v12 user cells import that cause problem.

If i made the same user cells from v13 style preset, all is working fine.

So at least two options :

- the developer team find a soluce, it would be my prefered.

- no soluce, i need to remade all cell styles on 570 pages !!!!!!!!! You can imagine the work it will be, near 20 hours of complete work for this. It's not my job to produce my website, i need to work, i need to sleep, .....

I know this is not your fault Ricardo, you do your best to help here, but sorry, after more than one month, i cannot work with v13, need to done my website update from v12 another time this week-end (so more page to redone user style put in place if there will be no technical soluce).

At this step, i'm angry, i work like this with this user cells since the v8, i never have this problem from v8 to 9, 9 to 10, 10 to 11, 11 to 12, but here for v13, it' wil be a shame if there is no technical soluce.

I really hope ingeneers will find it.

Test have been done on the last beta version  .18 at this day.

Best Regards.

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Riccardo P.
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Hello Joel,

the development team is still analyzingyourproject,I hope thata solution is found.
Thank you.

***** Google Translation:

Bonjour Joel,
L'équipe de développement analyse toujours le projet, j'espère qu'une solution est trouvée.
Je vous remercie.

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Thank you Ricardo, i hope too.

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Joel B.
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Hi Ricardo, after near 10 day's, any news of the development team ?

Thank you.

Joël

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Riccardo P.
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Hello Joael,

you project is under analisys, wait the nest update to fix it. You can submit in the beta channel for download the update whenitwill be available.

Thank you.

***** Google Translation:

Bonjour Joael,
Votre projet est en cours d'analyse, attendez la prochaine mise à jour pour le corriger. Vous pouvez soumettre dans le canal bêta pour télécharger la mise à jour quand il sera disponible.
Je vous remercie.

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Joel B.
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Thank you Ricardo, waiting for the next update ;)

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Joel B.
Joel B.
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Hi Ricardo, any news ?

I'm on the last version 13.02.19, no beta released since this update, i have subscribe since october to the beta program test.

I have update my v12 on the last version, made ctrl+preview, export the iwzip file, import in v13 same issue, it don't change.

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Riccardo P.
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Hello Joel,
i am sorry, but i don't know when the new update will be release, if you are in the beta channel you can see a notice in the program.
thank you.

***** Google Translation:

Bonjour Joel,
Je suis désolé, mais je ne sais pas quand la nouvelle mise à jour sera de sortie, si vous êtes dans la chaîne bêta, vous pouvez voir un avis dans le programme.
Je vous remercie.

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Joel B.
Joel B.
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Ok, thank you Ricardo.

Have a nice day.

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Joel B.
Joel B.
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Hi Ricardo, the last beta version solve the problem, all cell styles works now, thank you for your patience and the development team for their work.

I could now work with the v13 ;)

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Riccardo P.
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Hello Joel,

I was going to write you to try the new update. You wrotebefore I did.

I'm glad you solved your problem.

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